Monday, February 26

I lost count and ran out of good titles

I'm going to make an assumption here: you meant to put Arthur C. Clark's name in the question about 2001 rather than Carl Sagan's. I did a little quick reading on Sagan, and couldn't find what the question mentions and we never mentioned him in class (not to say that he doesn't sound interesting; I want to read Pale Blue Dot now). Clark, though, does seem to have more to say specifically about the relationship between creator and created.

Clark's plot explores the dangers of allowing a purely "logical" thinking machine run large parts of human lives. I don't know what his actual views are, but some of what the film explores reminds me of Asimov's stories about robots, where a large portion of humanity refuses to trust thinking machines, forcing the company that builds them to deeply set the "3 Laws of Robotics" within their positronic brains. Clark's characters are afraid--rightfully so, I suppose--that HAL will usurp control of the ship from them. Asimov's robots generally behave, him trying to reassure the modern public that technology is nothing really to fear, that we will usually be able to have enough safeguards in place to keep things from getting too out of control (no Matrix stuff). Clark doesn't seem so sure, though.

I just read an anectdote about Clark being amazed at an IBM demonstration where they showed off a "vocoder" that could sing Daisy Bell. If seeing this inspired so much of his thinking for 2001, I can't imagine the fear that haunts him in connection to virtual worlds. Though it could be argued that the AI involved in many modern video games is still of a different kind than that proposed by either Clark or Asimov, the complexity of what's going on even in a sophisticated fighting simulator where the AI adapts to your personal style makes their proposals seem a little more reasonable than they might've even 15 years ago.

Though, I said that Asimov's machines generally behave, there are situations where things go wrong. In my reading of his stories, the most interesting of all the "malfunctions" is in the 1st Law of Robotics--a robot shall never harm, or through inaction allow harm to come to a human being. What happens when action will harm a human, but inaction will also harm a human? Generally, in his stories, the robot shuts down or breaks because of the paradox. But, there is one story (I've forgotten which) where he explores robots who have developed the ability to judge which course of action would be better, almost turning the 3 Laws into a religious creed that all robots must adhere to, but a few are learning to twist and pervert to malicious interpretations, much like usually happens in human religion.

Both Asimov and Clark seem to be at least a little wary of humans becoming too confident in their control over the things they've invented.

I'll explore a couple other things tomorrow.

3 comments:

Joshua said...

Hey Vincent. I've been keeping up with you here because I really appreciate the stuff you discuss. But I have a thought on this quote: "the complexity of what's going on even in a sophisticated fighting simulator where the AI adapts to your personal style..."

Maybe it is us that adapts to the AI's personal style. The AI only has a certain amount of code set up to do a certain amount of moves. Thus we as humans would have to adapt to the limited choice of what the AI holds for itself. Does that make sense at all? Hope to hear back from ya.

Vince Wagner said...

That really doesn't make complete sense to me.

I meant to respond sooner, but I've been busy. Midterms and a friend in town. And, maybe I'll actually finish the rest of the assignment eventually... Sorry, Prof Pick.

I like the way that looks.

Joshua said...

Yeah, I knew you were busy. To expand on my comment.

My thing is, AI is limited in what it can do. So it can't really adapt to our personal styles because it only has a certain amount of moves or commands that was programmed into it. Thus we have to adapt to the AI in order to use it proficiently.

Anyways, how was your visit from Travis? He was going to drive through Nashvegas but decided to fly instead. It would have been nice to se him but hey, if you ever need to drive through you can stay at our place. We have a second room now that is Jenna's office but it has a guest bed. Later bud.